Have you been struggling to lose weight and keep it off? If you're a woman in her 40s or 50s, you're not alone. In fact, many women experience what's known as "midlife weight loss resistance."
But the good news is that there are steps you can take to overcome this resistance and finally achieve your weight loss goals.
On this episode of The Hormone Prescription Podcast, we're joined by Stu Schaefer, a 20-year award-winning celebrity weight-loss coach. He specializes in helping people put their bodies into The Thermogenic State, so they burn fat 24/7… and lose weight as they did in their 20s. He's here to share his insights on how to overcome midlife weight loss resistance.
The benefits of thermogenic foods
How to eat for your hormones
The real reason why it's so hard to lose weight as you get older
The simple tweak to your diet that can make all the difference
How to boost your metabolism and burn fat around the clock
Foods to avoid if you want to lose weight
Type of diet that will help you lose weight
If you're ready to finally overcome your weight loss resistance and get back on track, this episode is for you. Tune in now and start losing weight today!
[01:44] So Stu Schaefer is a 20 year award-winning celebrity weight loss coach. And he specializes in helping people put their body into the thermogenic state. So they burn fat 24 7 and lose weight like they did in their twenties. Who wants that everyone stew struggled with anorexia and his teens. And when he overcame his eating disorder, he realized that he wanted to help people create their perfect body in a healthy, sustainable way. Since then St has helped thousands of people transform their body and empower themselves to create massive success in their life. Welcome Stu. So happy to be here. This is gonna be great. It's gonna be awesome. It's always fun to talk to you because you have such clarity around the issues that my people wanna know about, which is weight loss resistance at midlife. How do I get rid of this belly? How do I get my butt to shrink my thigh? All the things. Not necessarily because of a vanity issue, but because they know it's related to health problems and they know cuz they've been hearing me say that fat, excess fat is not just decoration. It's metabolically active. And it's like, you have this extra endocrine organ that's then messing with your hormone. So, so many problems with excess APAC tea. So how did you become interested and an expert in this field? Why don't we start with that too?
[03:19] That's a great question. And you mentioned something really quick that I want to touch on before I forget you just mentioned something that's gold. And you said when women have this excess body fat, it reeks havoc with their hormones and will get to this. Remind me about this because most of the women who see me think their hormones are off and that's the cause of their weight gain, but actually their hormones being off is a symptom. Okay. And so when they hit, they, every woman that I've ever talked to says, well, I hit my fifties and my hormones changed and that's why I gained weight. And that's not usually the truth. The truth is something's off that reeked havoc with your hormones and caused you to gain weight.
[04:07] Well, you mentioned in the intro that I was anorexic and I was in, um, my first year of high school when I was 13, between eighth and ninth grade, I ended up breaking into a house in my neighborhood with two friends. I thought they were my friends and uh, I ended up getting arrested. Now when you're 13, every little thing is the end of the world. Anyway, and this was like the end of the end of the world. And because of that, it just, I had this self hatred. You also mentioned the self love idea in the intro and I was just despised myself. And as a result, thank goodness that when I was younger suicide wasn't as gratified as it is now. There no one was committing suicide, but I possibly could have cutting. Wasn't a thing I possibly could have. What I turned to was anorexia as a way of self punishment.
[04:59] And so for about a year and a half, I battled with that and it was very real. And what got me out of it quite honestly, was I had a nervous breakdown. It was ninth grade. I had a full load of classwork that I wasn't used to between that and not eating and not being able to function. Everything just came to a head and I just broke down and was crying. And that was the turning point. And out of that, ironically, what got me out of that mess was I decided to do a program. Now this doesn't work for many people who have an eating disorder, but for me it was something I could focus on. And I had anxiety for 30 days straight because every day I was eating four or five times a day and every time I ate, I thought I was gonna get fat.
[05:44] So I was an, I had anxiety all day. Now at the end of 30 days, this was the critical moment in my life. This shaped everything because it broke off that false belief system. I could see that I hadn't gained the weight. In fact, I looked better. I felt better. I wasn't as emotional I could function. And I had this clear vision and experience of what it's like on both sides. And I said, oh my gosh, I want to be a health coach because I can see the difference that this kind of change and transformation can make in a person's life. And I understand, and very compassionate when someone is feeling overwhelmed, anxious, doesn't know what to do. There's so much information. They don't like their body. And it just, there are some days I just wanted to hide under the covers and just wish that everything would go away. And that was the defining moment for me,
[06:47] Grew up really fast and out of that came this passion for helping people. What do you think is the biggest misconception that people have about losing weight?
[06:58] This is a good question. And I'll tell you flat out is it's still perpetuated. In fact, if you were to line up a hundred experts, including doctors and you ask them, how do you lose weight? 99 out of a hundred are gonna tell you that the only way to lose weight is to go into a calorie deficit. They won't even say that that's one way. They'll say it's the only way. That's how I was trained. When I became certified health coach and trainer, you know, it works for some people, usually when you're younger, but it's only temporary. I mean, I was doing that.
[07:43] The door was open and she said, Hey, I said, uh, I'm like cleaning up. I'm like, okay, well, how can I help you? And she's still sweating. She's breathing heavy. She goes, look, I wanna lose between 30 and 50 pounds. And I've tried everything and nothing works well. I'm in my twenties at this time. And I am embarrassed to admit this, but I'm kind of arrogant. And in my mind I was thinking, yeah, right. You know, you're just eating too much. You' not working out enough. Like, that's just what we're taught. It's like, oh, it's simple. So I said, I assured her that I could help her. She decided to work with me and we tried for five weeks and she did not lose a pound. Now her background. She said that typically, if she did a diet, she might lose three to five, but then she'd hit a plateau, gain it right back and then gain seven to 10 pounds over the next year.
[08:30] All right. Well now I'm thinking, oh my gosh, we tried everything. Well, the 200 ounces of water, grapefruits Adkins was hot at the time. She tried that south beach, the zone diet, you know, you have to remember, this was back in 2009. These were all the trending diets. And she was eating less than 1200 calories a day, borderline a thousand. She was working out two hours a day. She's sitting across the desk crying, saying, I told you, I told you, I told you, I'm thinking I blew it.
[09:17] I could tell how emotional she was about it. So I went on this deep dive research quest. I was bound and determined to figure out what is going on here? Why is the normal stuff not working? And after about two weeks, I figured it out. It's something called repress metabolic syndrome or RMS. And what happens essentially is when you diet too much or you don't eat enough or you exercise too much or a combination of those things, it essentially causes your metabolism to shut down. And it puts your body in this state called the catabolic state where your body's actually storing fat and burning muscle.
[10:10] And this is called putting your body into the thermogenic state and the way you do it essentially is you eat more and exercise less totally counterintuitive. So I go back to Ashley, I'm all excited. And I kind of explained to her what I just explained to you. And I said, we gotta, I need you to start eating more and exercising less. Well, you can imagine she's looking at me like, what are you nuts? She's like, there's no way I'm gonna do that. I can't even lose a pound. I'm barely eating anything. I'm exercising two hours a day. This is gonna make me gain weight. And I said, look, let's give me a week, give it a week. Let's do this.
[10:52] Well, the first week she lost two pounds. I'm thin I'm sitting there going like, yes, we've got, this is working. She's not convinced. Cuz remember she had lose three to five and gain it back. So she's like, oh right. This is what my body normally does. But she was willing to give it a shot. Okay. We didn't go the opposite direction. The next week she lost two and a half pounds every single week for 12 weeks in a row, she lost between two and two and a half pounds. And she ended up losing a total of 37 pounds of body fat while simultaneously increasing her lean body mass slightly, which is very important for metabolic reasons. And she looked at me and she goes, I don't understand how this was possible. How did this work? And I was telling her, look, this is because we put your body in the thermogenic state.
[11:39] When you work with your body, magical things happen. You can eat more. Your body revs up, you start burning fat all the time. So Kirin I'm thinking, oh my gosh, if it worked with someone like Ashley, who was like so challenged, how would it work for all my other clients who are already losing weight, doing the normal calorie deficit. So I go to 'em and I say, tell 'em what happened? Are you willing to try this? Yeah, let's try it. Not only did they start losing weight faster, working out half the time and also eating more. But their energy went through the roof, their cravings vanished. They were never hungry. And their hormones started normalizing because they weren't restricting or cutting out any types of foods. Then I was like, oh my gosh, there's something to this. This is incredible. That's how I figured this out.
[12:30] Awesome. <laugh> so you, you mentioned, you know, there are hormones normalized. So one thing you mentioned earlier is that women say my hormones went out of balance and I gain. So we might have to agree to disagree there because you know, we, women do have this menopausal thing that is associated with weight gain where we go through per menopause and menopause. So which came first, the chicken or the egg. How do you help women address weight, hormone balance for midlife women?
[13:00] Is to lose this question, Uhhuh. Yeah. This is a good question. What happens is this? I'm not saying that the hormones changes. Aren't real. Mm-hmm <affirmative> I'm saying that that's not necessarily the cause of everything. Normally there's something else that causes the hormones to go outta whack to begin with mm-hmm <affirmative> okay. So, and this is typically how it works. When we get older, as we age everyone, you, me, everyone. We get more sensitive. Now this is obvious. If you were to compare a 20 year old woman and a 90 year old woman, you'd be obvious. Oh yeah. If the 90 year old tried to do what the 20 year old did, you know, she could probably die just your, your bodies get more sensitive, right? Where we're more resilient when we're younger. So what happens is this, maybe that I'm the only one that had this experience.
[13:49] But when I was in college, I would see the girls guys too. But I'm talking about girls here. I'd see the girls go on a binger Friday night and a binger Saturday night and pull an all night or Sunday night for the exam. They had Monday. And then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, they'd work out two hours a day to undo all the damage they did and get ready for the next weekend. Okay. Well they looked fantastic, but guess what? That's not good for your body. Okay. It was never good for the body, but it worked for them at the time. So what happens is people develop bad habits that ha that allow them to lose weight when they're younger. And they keep those bad habits that actually prevent them from losing weight. As they hit a certain age, it's not because the hormones change per se.
[14:35] It's because our bodies get so much more sensitive. And those bad habits oftentimes are the culprits that make the hormones change. This is what I'm talking about. This is that kind of dichotomy. Now when you eat correctly and when talk about that, there's four components of eating. I call it the food quadrant. There's not only what you eat and how much you eat, but there's when you eat certain foods, the timing and how you combine foods together at each meal. And that's when the magic happens. When you do that and you put your body in this thermogenic state, one of the side effects is that your hormones balance, they normalize. Now I'll tell you the order. They do it in the first thing that normalize is right away within days is your insulin and blood sugar. The second one that balances cortisol. And you know, we've talked about that.
[15:24] Karen on Instagram a couple times, that's like the mama hormone right there. Right? I think you call it the queen hormone or something like that. Yeah. And then the third that balances or normalizes a bit is thyroid. Now, obviously if you have an autoimmune like Hashimotos or hypothyroid, it may not balance all the way, but many of my clients, they have reduced significantly. Any thyroid medication they've been on and I have a client right now, as a matter of fact, her name is Holly. She has no thyroid. She was convinced she wouldn't be able to lose weight and she's losing weight just fine. When those big three hormones balance the insulin, the cortisol and the thyroid that opens the gates for your other sex hormones to start normalizing naturally, these are the progesterone testosterone, estrogen.
[16:44] Yeah. I totally agree with you about these bad habits that we pick up that affect our other hormones. Like our insulin, our cortisol, this feast or famine workout crazy. Don't work out. We develop these habits and we have Unbound hormones. And then we, women get to midlife. We blame it all on our sex hormones. And then we chase that, that train, but that train never gets to the station because you don't know about all these other things. So thank you for highlighting that.
[17:26] Food. You know, this is a great, uh, point because I had a, a client not too long ago and she was 52, her name's Brenda. And she said, I can't eat carbs. If I do, I blow up like a balloon. Every time I try to get carbs back into my nutrition, that's what always happens. So she was going low carb. Well, the problem with going low carb or no carb is that can cause diet induced hypothyroidism. Okay? Since the nineties, this is a medical term. Since the nineties, we've known that two things can cause diet induced, hypothyroidism, eating a diet that's too low in carbohydrates or too high in fats, even good fats. Now I happen to have seen more women in the last three years with diet induced hypothyroidism than I had in the 17 years before that combined much of the reason I believe is because of the ketogenic diet is so low carbon.
[18:19] So high fat, it's kind of hitting that thyroid from both sides. So this particular woman Brenda had done this. Okay? So not only was her thyroid outta whack, her sex hormones were outta whack. I, the first thing I said is, look, we're gonna have to add carbs. You have to eat carbs. Carbs are actually really good. And I'll explain why in just a second. But she was very frightened by it. In fact, she said, look, I'm not gonna weigh myself because if the scale goes up, I'm just, I'm gonna die. I said, fine. Don't weigh yourself, but I need you to take progress photos and waste measurements. So we have some form of tracking here other than the scale. And she said, okay, deal.
[19:09] I said, how was your weekend? It was a Monday morning. I said, how was your week? She said, oh my gosh, first time that I can remember two days in a row. I woke up to my alarm clock. I haven't slept this good in years. Now this is a good indicator that your hormones are balancing. Okay? When you start sleeping. And she said she wasn't moody anymore. This is because she was eating enough of the right foods to allow her body to get into this nice thermogenic state.
[19:56] Now there's a catch to this, right? All of us have a limit just like vitamins. It's like, oh, vitamin C is good. Well, if you take too much, it's useless. The body does. It only absorbs what it can. And you pee out the rest. Well with food <laugh> you only have a, a certain amount. You can absorb you don't pee out the excess. Okay. What ends up happening is you store it as fat. Now carbs have the second highest thermogenic effect. This is what nobody talks about. They have a 20% thermogenic effect. Fat has almost zero. It has between a zero and 3% thermogenic effect. So it really doesn't cause you to burn fat.
[20:42] Now you need fats for hormone, balancing and skin and, and other things like this, right? But they make you full. So if you're eating too many fats and you get full, then you won't have an appetite to eat some of the other foods that would actually force your body to burn fat. I see this so often now, and I, you know, wasn't long ago I had a client named Mary 52. She had done keto for eight years now. She started doing it because she wanted to get rid of seizures and it can do that. And it did it for her. However, over eight years, it totally depleted her body. Put her into the repress metabolic syndrome.
[21:35] Now for the fir, I'm gonna tell you how this can affect your body for the first four weeks, four and a half weeks, she only lost two pounds. And she said, I'm really discouraged. I said, Mary, I get ya. I said, but look, how's your sleep. She goes, amazing. I go, how's your energy. She goes, well, that's kind of the only reason I'm still optimistic. I haven't had this much energy in years. I go, how are your exercise sessions going? She goes, great. I'm getting stronger. I said, aha. I said, stay the course. I can see what you're doing.
[22:18] She lost two pounds that week, the next week, two pounds, the next week, two pounds, 10 weeks in a row. And she lost 26 pounds. And she goes, oh my gosh. She goes, I would've given up after that first four and a half weeks, I would've said, oh, this isn't working. It took four weeks for her body to undo that damage that she had done by depleting it so much. And then once we started fueling it correctly, bam, she was ready. Now the problem was she was eating tons of nuts and avocados and seeds because that's what everyone says to do.
[23:10] That's not true. The truth is this. And you know, this Karen, every different food you put in your body has a different chemical reaction in your body. Period. It affects your hormones differently. Doctors will tell you this in the same breath, as they tell you that all you need to do is go into a calorie deficit. So the key is getting the right foods in the right combination to create the chemical reaction you want in your body. Most people want to create a chemical reaction that does two things causes 'em to burn fat and increases their energy. So they feel amazing. And as a side effect, they optimize their health and hormones.
[24:03] Well, here's the downside. We know saturated fats are generally not that great in, in high quantities. And we know trans fats are definitely not good, but people go, well, the omegas are great. Kind of that's only half the story. There is a specific omega three fatty acid. That's really good. And that's the one that's found in fish. Okay. Salmon, macro sardines, these types of things. Cardine okay. This type, this type of omega three fatty acid. Now there's omega three fatty acids found in other foods, but not this type. This is the type that will encourage some fat burning in the body that helps with your hormones and endocrine system. And that can help fight chronic diseases.
[25:13] Okay. And so again, you get half the story out there and then everyone runs with it, but they don't explain the subtle differences and these subtle differences, they make all the difference. And that's why when I clients have told, I have told me, I've tried everything. I've tried this, I've tried that. And when we make these subtle tweaks and then they finally get the results, it's like a breath of fresh air. It's like this huge weight has lifted off their shoulders. And this is the difference, right?
[25:50] I love talking with you Stu because you know, it's so true that everyone is like, oh, what's the latest diet. And, and when I was coming along, it was the grapefruit diet, the cottage cheese diet, south beach, the zone, those were the things. And it's like, everyone's like, yay. The zone diet, you know, the cottage cheese diet. Oh the grapefru, it's just like, everybody's, omega3s are the answer. Omega six is, are the answer. And it's like, oh my gosh, let's just go to science. And you go to the science and you're like, y'all, this is how it works.
[26:27] Is P are D you just gotta go back to the basic science that hasn't changed in a long, long time. I do wanna touch on this topic because we were we're limited in time. Uh, I know we're doing finishing up with a masterclass, everybody listening to the podcast, we got a bunch of lucky women here who get to pick STUs brain. When we get off the podcast who are members of my program. And that's one of the benefits you get of being in my program. You get a front row seat masterclass with a lot of these experts. A lot of what I talk about is not only hormone balance, but how women have to detoxify that. That's part of their weight gain and mitochondrial function or dysfunction is part of their weight gain. How do you work with those things? And what do you recommend for women at midlife to help with those aspects of wake eight?
[27:21] This isn't actually, it's a really good question. So there are two things that I do. So one of the things is that over the last 20 years that I've done this, I happened to just always work with women over 40 and over 50, it was wherever I grew up. I, I grew up in a town where that was the predominant demographic. So since I was a young trainer, I've always worked with women who were in their forties, fifties and beyond. And I just learned, and I thought that this was normal. And I never realized that this is actually quite difficult. And it's a very special thing.
[28:07] Okay. And these, then someone might have a gut issue. Okay. KDA, leaky, gut. CIBO something like this same thing. I'd work with them. And we'd find these high risk foods that a lot of times would agitate them, cause them to gain weight and same with thyroid issues. Okay. Well, what I noticed was over these things, these high risk foods were all the same. Now, these aren't just the typical high risk foods that you hear about like dairy and gluten. Okay. Those are two of the highest risk foods in peanuts and sugar, but these were other things like kale, broccoli, in some cases, sometimes bell peppers or tomatoes.
[29:01] So something's off, they have a undiagnosed food sensitivity that may not show up on a test, to be honest with you or a gut issue undiagnosed perhaps, or an autoimmune that they don't know about, or they do know about it, doesn't matter whether you know it about it or not. And so I'll say, look, let's pull some of these foods. And they'll say, really, I eat a, a broccoli cauliflower, you know, brussel sprout some of these healthy foods. And when we pull 'em, they start losing the weight. And then when we put 'em back in, they'll gain the weight and it goes totally against everything that you would ever hear. But some vegetables require a specifically, very balanced gut biome to be able to properly digest those. And if your gut is off, it, ain't gonna work and it's gonna cause inflammation and weight gain.
[29:49] And so you have to go through a period of pulling out some of these high risk culprits so that your body can actually adapt and adjust and normalize. And then you can integrate these back. In. In fact, I have a client right now. She's still working with me, her name's Kathy, she's 53. Now she lives in New York and she is a nurse she's on her feet all day. And she said for 15 years too, I've tried everything. You can imagine. She rattled off everything. You just did. Kirin Adkins, south beach zone, you name it.
[30:34] And no one would ever notice. Okay? So we cut out some of these high risk foods. And in the first three weeks she lost nine pounds. And she said, holy smokes. I feel amazing. She had no energy after work. Now, after work, she had so much energy. She could do her full workout. We found out it was, there were two foods. Now we've since found there, there are a few more. And recently she said, gosh, I need to go to my rheumatologist. I said, what are you talking about? She goes, my joints feel like they're swelling. I go, well, you've added in all these foods without talking to me, pull 'em out really quick.
[31:18] The more you eat a food, they'll higher. The likelihood that she'll develop antibodies to it. So sure enough, she cut it out. She was able to lose. If I remember correctly, 24 pounds, she's since been able to keep it off. She's jet, set it over to Switzerland and Paris and all these different vacations and is able to splurge and eat normally and not worry about dieting. And she's fine. She's able to maintain. But again, we're now kind of looking at what are these foods she's not eating any unhealthy foods, nothing that would be obvious like gluten or dairy, which one of these veggies is your body rejecting.
[32:11] That's actually causing an antibody inflammatory response. That's causing your knuckles to feel swollen. This is what happens now. Only someone who's I'm sorry, but only someone who's worked this out on the street. Who's failed miserably. Many times is gonna know and understand what to look for because this isn't in any of the textbooks. It's not, it's not okay. And this is the key. So what happens is I've met more women and remember there was a kale craze. We've got some women here. I bet all of you remember the kale craze, everyone was putting kale in their shakes, making CAEs.
[32:48] And that caused more women to gain weight and develop weird issues than anything I had seen in my career. And this was just awesome. Okay. Someone's asking. Right. Well how, how do you test it? Well, I don't test because I just know what the foods are, cuz I've done this for 20 years, but if you were gonna try to test it on your own, where would you start? I mean, it's hard and I don't recommend doing this with any of my clients, but you could do a basic elimination diet, which is very difficult and it's not realistic to maintain, but essentially you'd have to wipe out all foods except for maybe like fiber or so, and then start systematically adding them back in this takes a long time and it's can be hard and arduous. I honestly don't have a test.
[33:49] I would just wanna add that this is definitely a part of my story too. You know, I was reacting to cauliflower, supposed to be healthy. Right? Mm-hmm <affirmative> almonds, peaches, blueberries who knew mm-hmm <affirmative> so definitely a part of my story
[34:03] Tell, you know, and I had a client named Locklin who was actually on my podcast and she was doing great with her weight loss. And we went from two hours a day, no joke, two hours a day to 30 minutes, a day of exercise and increased her caloric intake by 50%. And she lost 18 pounds. But then she hit a plateau and I said, Locklin, what have you changed? She goes nothing. I said, okay, I'm I'm gonna study. I'm gonna go through a fine tooth comb with what you've been eating. She added one thing at night almonds because she was hungry and she wanted a healthy fat, but she said, oh my gosh, I got these weird hormonal symptoms.
[34:50] You asked about the gut health stuff. That's number one. I said there were two things. Number two is I always take a very specific type of silver. This is not colloidal silver. It's a special ized, structured silver where they bond it to a water molecule, which is an antimicrobial it's only strong enough to kill the bad bacteria in your body. It is not strong enough to kill the good bacteria and it also kills fungus and mold and yeast. So this will wipe out candida it'll help with leaky gut it'll wipe out CIBO. This is my magic bullet that I use. And it's easy to take no risk of uh, no side effects and no risk of overdosing in any way, shape or form.
[35:36] Awesome. Thank you for addressing those things. I know we still haven't talked about self love and weight loss, which we've got to talk about. So I'm almost wondering if we need to cut it into two episodes, but let's go there and we'll figure out how to do the logistics later. But you do have an amazing training that you're gonna share with everyone. We're gonna give you the link in the show notes when Stu is done, but we've gotta talk about this issue because so many of us, particularly women, gosh, we have a lot of self hate around our bodies and lack of self acceptance. Some people say I don't hate myself, but if you don't wanna stand there naked in front of a mirror and you can't love all parts of your body, that's a lack of self-acceptance mm-hmm <affirmative>, which is kind of like hate.
[36:39] So I'm not gonna hold anything back here because people here listening are in the right place to hear this message at the right time. Our mind, not our brain, our mind has a profound, physiological impact that not many people are aware of. Okay. In fact, if you go to again, if you took a thousand coaches, health coaches, weight loss coaches, maybe one, two or three out of a thousand would understand how to incorporate mindset in a way that would actually cause physiological changes in your body.
[37:34] Let's say you have a man with two personalities. We'll call him Frank and Joe. Okay. I talk to all my clients about this, cuz it's amazing. The researchers or doctors or nurses or whoever will be observing this person and he'll say, hi, I'm Frank. Oh, Hey Frank. Well, we're gonna do a physical on you. Okay, great. And they'll do a physical, the blood work, the hearing the vision, the whole deal. And Frank has perfect health. 10 minutes later, he goes, Hey, I'm Joe. Oh, Hey Joe, we're gonna do a physical. And Joe has diabetes and requires glasses. Okay. Same body, same physical vessel, two different personalities, 10 minutes apart, completely different physiological characteristics. Now in the eighties they went, okay, something's wrong with our instrumentation something. This can't be. But over the last 40 years, they are like seeing this not uncommon by the way.
[38:27] And they're realizing how much our mind impacts our body. Now I'll give everyone here. A simple example that I always talk to my clients about to iterate this point. Most of us have had this experience. We're asleep in our own bed, in our own room. It's quiet, it's comfortable. It's warm, it's peaceful. And all of a sudden we wake up. Our heart's pounding. Our adrenaline is up. Our cortisol is up. Our blood pressure is up. Our respiratory rate is up and we're sweating and nothing happened there. Wasn't a bang. The bed didn't shake. We had a nightmare. Okay. Well a nightmare is nothing more than an unconscious visualization. That is it.
[39:30] This is why some people will go through the right actions and still not get results because their mindset is so off. And I'll give you a practical example in just a second. Their mindset is so off that they are causing their body to be in a state of. And I always get these backwards, the parasympathetic or sympathetic, you know, when your cortisol's up, they're causing their body to be all in this weird, stressed out state that they can't lose weight. They can't get the results.
[40:21] One week she did her way away in and checked everything. And she weighed 147.8 pounds. At the end of the week, she did her next checkin. We wanted to see how everything was working and she weighed 147.0 pounds <laugh> and she said, oh, that's familiar. And she says, oh my gosh, do something's wrong? I didn't lose any weight. And I go, what are you talking about? You almost, you lost a pound. She goes, no, look, I'm still 1 47. I go, you went from 1 47 0.8 to 1 47. I go, it, everything is right on track, calm down.
[41:17] They have a lot of evidence from their past and they have a lot of doubt and fear and anxiety about losing weight and food. And, and, oh, I go, I'm probably gonna have to cut carbs and I can't eat this. And they have all these, these negative experiences is locked up in their, uh, proof and, and, and in their subconscious conditioning. And so all these things rear their head and these are real things that have a real physiological impact. You have to, how do you know, how do you know if you're, if you're using your mindset against you, I'll tell you the easiest way.
[42:16] Takes a couple minutes, twice a day. That's it? It's no different than working out. You do the reps period, but most people don't understand this. They don't grasp it. And even when they set goals, they set a goal that anytime they think of the goal, it makes 'em feel nervous and upset and anxious and doubtful. And they're using their own goals against them too. And so it backfires. And then they wonder why they're not getting the results. And it's because they're putting themselves in this chronic state of negative mindset versus positive. Ultimately the best attitude you could possibly be in. And the one we call self love is when you truly and totally accept yourself for how you are right now, 100%.
[43:24] That was so worth it. That was, we had to, you had to go there. So thank you for going in deep on that. I really appreciate it. I love this. This is my favorite quote that you said <laugh>, if you have any negative emotion, you are using your mindset against your body. I think that's a big hunk of truth that everybody needs to really take in. Thank you so much, Stu. I love talking to you. You explain things so clearly and concretely that I think people really understand. You really are always with weight loss resistance.
[44:22] So I wanna really give everyone, I always just want to add value and, and give people clarity so they can really have some direction okay. And say, oh my gosh, I know what's been going on. So there's a masterclass. You can watch that I've recorded. That goes over this material in more depth, there's a fat loss blueprint and then a thermogenic quiz where you can take it and kind of see how well or how close you are to be putting your body in that thermogenic state.
[44:50] Awesome. Thank you so much for those amazing resources. We'll put them with both part, one of the podcasts and part two. I don't know how, or maybe we'll just have one really long one <laugh> cause we just might have to do that. And we'll have a link in the show notes where you can check that out. You definitely wanna hear what Stu has to say. If you've, if you're a woman at midlife and you've got a weight problem because he knows the answers. So I definitely recommend that. Thank you so much, Stu for joining us today, we're gonna jump into the masterclass and thank you all for joining us for another episode of the hormone prescription podcast with Dr. Kirin.
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